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id: feeders
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id:
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aliases:
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- feeders takeoff
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title: Feeders Takeoff
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@@ -16,12 +16,12 @@ up: "[[takeoff-scripts]]"
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> including [[conest-wiring-method-selection]],
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> before beginning takeoff.
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## Execution
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## Scope
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1. Primaries
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2. Secondaries
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3. Feeders
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4. Grounding
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* Primaries
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* Secondaries
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* Feeders
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* Grounding
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### Formatting
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@@ -46,38 +46,50 @@ For adjacent panels, use a minimum 10ft length.
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#### Adders
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Use the difference in elevation between equipment
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Use the difference in elevation between equipment[^2]
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or 10ft, whichever is greater.
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Add an additional 5ft (total 15ft) for site runs
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(primaries, secondaries, etc.).
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[^2]: Not actually difference in elevation.
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A site run from the bottom to the top of a hill may still only need 10ft.
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This needs more precise wording.
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It is not necessary to change this logic for site runs.[^3][^4]
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[^3]: [[2026-06-03_14-05-39#Site Run Adders]]
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[^4]: I will remove this line when I break the habit.
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## Primaries
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* `Area` = "2 - Site"
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* `Phase` = "Site"
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* `System` = "PRI - Primaries"
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> [!info] Breakdowns
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> * `Area` = "2 - Site"
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> * `Phase` = "Site"
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> * `System` = "PRI - Primaries"
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Usually only empty conduit if included.
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## Secondaries
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* `Area` = "2 - Site"
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* `Phase` = "Site"
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* `System` = "SEC - Secondaries"
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> [!info] Breakdowns
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> * `Area` = "2 - Site"
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> * `Phase` = "Site"
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> * `System` = "SEC - Secondaries"
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### Wiring on Vault Racks
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Where secondary conductors run on racks in utility vaults
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manually set the length of conduit,
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measure the wire length,
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add 20ft in addition to previously mentioned adders.
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add 20ft in addition to previously mentioned adders.[^5]
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[^5]: [[art-baldwin]] at some point, I think.
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## Feeders
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* `Area` = "01 - Feeders/Risers Building"
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* `Phase` = "Feeders"
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* `System` = "FRR - Feeders and Risers"
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> [!info] Breakdowns
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> * `Area` = "01 - Feeders/Risers Building"
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> * `Phase` = "Feeders"
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> * `System` = "FRR - Feeders and Risers"
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> [!info] Garage Feeders
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> `Area` "01 - Feeders/Risers Garage" is seldom used.
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@@ -88,9 +100,25 @@ add 20ft in addition to previously mentioned adders.
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`COMMON ASSEMBLIES`/`DISTRIBUTION`/`BUS DUCT`/...
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Delete unnecessary items and change `Fct 1`
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to get the correct quantities for the use case.
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## Conductor Support
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![[nfpa-70_300_general-requirements#300.19(A) Spacing Intervals --- Maximum.]]
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In lieu of more stringent requirements
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that may be imposed by project requirements,
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minimum support for vertical conductors
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is determined by [[nfpa-70_300_general-requirements#300.19(A) Spacing Intervals --- Maximum.|NEC 300.19(A)]]
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Various [[heuristics]] exist among ConEst teams.
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Assuming minimum 40ft spacing
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(the absolute minimum for feeders we're likely to encounter)
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for _all_ conductors is popular even among more detail-favoring seniors.
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I generally prefer not to use a heuristic
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because `takeoff-calcs.xlsm` trivializes accurate selection
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and results in far fewer necessary supports.
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Like [[#Sleeving]], it is acceptable to takeoff total counts
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`ITEM DATABASE`/`CONDUIT & FITTINGS`/`CABLE SUPPORT / WEDGES`/`... COMPLETE FITTING`/...
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@@ -101,3 +129,7 @@ See [[grounding-takeoff]].
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## Sleeving
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See [[sleeving-takeoff]].
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Because feeders are not broken down by level
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(they use `Area` = "01 - Feeders/Risers ...")
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it is acceptable to use total counts.
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