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# 2026-01-02 10:10:18
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### Harborside Plaza 4
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### Harborside Plaza 4 TODO
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%% [[harborside-plaza-4]]
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TODO list for [[harborside-plaza-4]]
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#### TODO
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* [ ] [[electrical-takeoff|Electrical]]
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* [x] [[electrical-takeoff|Electrical]]
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* [x] [[telecom-takeoff#Backbone Riser|Telecom Backbone]]
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* [x] [[distributed-antenna-systems-takeoff|DAS]]
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@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ that there must be some limit to the logic of "covering it",
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since it is always within our power to add contingency,
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and especially because---if anything---
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I feel that our procedures tend towards
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the upper end of reasonable ECI.
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the _upper_ end of reasonable ECI.
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(see [[value-of-information.jpg]])
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My response was not well formulated.
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@@ -34,11 +34,11 @@ Type I and II construction.
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> otherwise use PVC if possible.
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> [!important]
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> Note that MC cable may be forbidden for this application.
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>
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> > [!quote] Hampton Roads Navy UH - Newport News, Project Specifications
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> > MC cable shall not be allowed for wiring to mechanical equipment
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> > except for within the dwelling units.
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> Note that MC cable may be forbidden for this application.[^1]
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[^1]: > [!quote] [[hampton-roads-navy_newport-news|Hampton Roads Navy UH - Newport News]], Project Specifications
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> MC cable shall not be allowed for wiring to mechanical equipment
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> except for within the dwelling units.
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### EMT Connections
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The buildings are about 70ft long,
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with all runs less than 100ft.
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I asked [[joel-jansen]] if it would be necessary
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I asked [[joel-jansen|Joel]] if it would be necessary
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to use minimum 10 AWG
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as is [[conest|ConEst]] standard
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for [[pdi-breakdowns#Bid Item Garage|Garage]].
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as is [[conest|ConEst]] standard for [[pdi-breakdowns#Bid Item Garage|Garage]].
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He said it would not be,
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and confirmed 12 AWG is acceptable in this case.
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@@ -12,11 +12,16 @@ Direction from [[joel-jansen|Joel]]
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[[telecom-takeoff#Corridor Conduit (IDF to Unit MSDE)]]
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It is acceptable to use a weighted average length
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It is acceptable to use a weighted average of subfeed length
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in a "Typical - All Units"
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in lieu of individual takeoffs per floor.
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## Unit Condensing Units
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[[electrical-takeoff#Unit Condensing Units]]
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For [[electrical-takeoff#Unit Condensing Units|unit CU takeoff]], in most cases
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the horizontal length should **not** be the subfeed length,
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but the distance from the unit panel to the indoor unit.
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This assumes the riser can be routed up an interior wall,
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rather than a single chase for all units (worst case)
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assumed by the subfeed length heuristic.
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---
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id: 2026-05-12T09:15:34-0400
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title: 2026-05-12 09:15:34
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tags: []
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daily: "[[2026-05-12]]"
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---
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# 2026-05-12 09:15:34
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## Hilltop Gardens Review and Closeout
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[[conest-senior-review]] and [[conest-manager-review]]
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for [[hilltop-gardens]]
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with [[josh-ford]] filling in for [[joel-jansen|Joel]].
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### Florida Considerations
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#### Building Codes
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8th Edition Florida codes (2023)
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are based on 2021 I-Codes.
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#### Site Poles
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Expect direct burial poles in Florida.
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Southeast and Florida exclude concrete in proposals,
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Florida usually considers site pole foundations excluded in this,
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Southeast does not.
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#### Construction Type and Wiring Method Selection
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South Florida gardens may be concrete for hurricane resistance
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but [[ibc-construction-types#Type III Combustible|type III construction]].
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Romex is allowed in this case.
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#### Automatically Controlled Receptacles
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Florida Building Code does not require automatically controlled receptacles
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* [ ] investigate
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#### Fire Alarm Inspections
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South Florida fire alarm inspections are conducted at night:
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+20% of fire alarm budget for overtime.
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### 520Hz Smoke Detectors
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The 120V 520Hz smoke detectors qualified in the proposal
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are limited source (Home Depot).
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No change to takeoff necessary.
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Josh changed the name and pricing of the item in the extension.
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### Post-Tensioned Slab Considerations
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In a 6in post-tensioned slab
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other than fixture branch and floorboxes
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may not be feasible to run in deck,
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especially subfeeds.
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### Site Misc
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In the WBS,
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1 (Site) does not have EL or FA breakdowns.
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Site EV chargers, Fire Alarm Loop
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go in Site Misc.
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### Rigid Elbows for Secondaries
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PVC elbows in secondaries
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* [x] check if intentional
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* Elbows were RMC, the takeoff name was not changed.
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### Panel Schedule Error
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EV charger breakers were erroneously shown as 20A on some panel schedules.
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(Should be 80A)
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### Fixture Branch Length
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Fixture branch length tighter for Gardens.
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Josh shortened some 20fts to 15ft.
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### Material Pricing
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Re-extend all before supplier link.
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### Josh's Review Strategy
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Check middle and end
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beginning is likely to be rough:
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asking questions
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refining
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Expecting significant [[pdi-bid-estimating|Bid]] to ConEst delta in slab work.
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branch length per opening
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openings per unit
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Unit sqft * 1.5
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800sqft unit = 1200ft cable per unit
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in whole job, not just unit.
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"True Garden" feeders about \$150 per unit.
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This is not a "true Garden".
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### Bid Sheet
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See Bid Sheet for actual values.
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[[corwin-fluit]] updates the Bid Sheet quarterly.
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The Bid Sheet was initially a temporary measure for COVID.
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Usually large delta in units if "Unit Tabulation" sheet is not utilized.
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### Breakdowns for Remote Horn/Strobes in Units
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Remote strobes in units were erroneously taken off in `System` = "EL - Electrical".
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The correct `System` is "FA - Fire Alarm".
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[[units-takeoff]] had the correct direction for this case at the time of takeoff,
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but I was not meaningfully consulting the note.
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### Labor Plan
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Count of bathroom exhaust fans per unit
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is usually one less than smokes
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Do not consider data outlets in above openings per unit.
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Labor Plan:
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"Amenity" is Interior Amenity.
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Put Exterior Amenity in "Other".
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Excavation is covered by site work increase labor factor.
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Calculators/Prefab calculator
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Firestopping: \$35 per unit
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Colorado: \$75 per unit
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Permits: Percent of Contract Value
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Palm Beach, Florida: 1.1%
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Miami, Florida: 1.0%
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Miami Beach, Florida: 1.9%
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Equipment: 0.75% to 1.00% of Selling Price
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