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@@ -18,13 +18,15 @@ Scripts by others tend to beg questions of edge cases.
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It's my intent that if a rule holds in _all_ cases,
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even the super special one you're thinking I didn't consider,
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that I specifically say so.
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If I didn't say so, and your edge case is not covered,
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**If I didn't say so,**
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**and your edge case is not covered,**
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**you should seek clarification.**
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%%
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## Wire Material Selection
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[[pdi-estimating]] preference is to use aluminum conductors
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[[pdi-estimating]] preference is to use aluminum conductors.
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If [[pdi-bid-estimating|Bid]]'s proposal sells aluminum 100A and larger
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use aluminum for grounds, even if the feeder schedule uses copper.[^1]
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@@ -80,7 +82,7 @@ may only be used where they will be concealed from view.
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May require rigid stub-ups in certain cases,
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which could make EMT more cost-effective.
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Consult with the Senior Construction Estimator in this case.
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Consult with your [[conest#ConEst Senior Estimator|senior]] in this case.
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> [!important]
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> Be careful of ambiguous terminology in specifications and PDI proposals:
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@@ -99,48 +101,52 @@ PVC in-slab may not be utilized for precast slabs.
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Conduits may only be routed through slabs of thickness
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at least 3 times the outer diameter of the conduit.
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| Conduit Size | Minimum Slab Thickness (in) |
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| ------------:| ---------------------------:|
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| 1/2" | 3.0 |
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| 3/4" | 3.5 |
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| 1" | 4.0 |
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| 1-1/4" | 5.0 |
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| 1-1/2" | 6.0 |
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| 2" | 7.5 |
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| 3" | 9.0 |
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| 2-1/2" | 10.5 |
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| 3-1/2" | 12.0 |
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| 4" | 13.5 |
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| 5" | 17.0 |
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| 6" | 20.0 |
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| Conduit Size | Minimum Slab Thickness |
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| ------------:| ----------------------:|
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| 1/2" | 3.0 in |
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| 3/4" | 3.5 in |
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| 1" | 4.0 in |
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| 1-1/4" | 5.0 in |
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| 1-1/2" | 6.0 in |
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| 2" | 7.5 in |
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| 3" | 9.0 in |
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| 2-1/2" | 10.5 in |
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| 3-1/2" | 12.0 in |
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| 4" | 13.5 in |
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| 5" | 17.0 in |
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| 6" | 20.0 in |
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#### Shear Walls
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[[construction-methods#Shear Walls|Shear Walls]]
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Shear walls, like those around stairwells and elevator shafts,
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[[construction-methods#Shear Walls|Shear walls]],
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like those around stairwells and elevator shafts,
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may be routed through with special permission.
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#### Post-Tensioned Slabs
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Raceway considerations for
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[[construction-methods#Post-Tensioned Slab|post-tensioned slabs]],
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[[construction-methods#Post-Tensioned Slab|post-tensioned slabs]]
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(namely if PVC may be utilized, and if so, what sizes)
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are contentious.
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are contentious.[^2][^3][^4]
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> [!cite] [[joel-jansen]] 2025-08-15, in reference to [[belle-meade-plaza|Belle Meade Plaza]] (pp.)
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> No affect on takeoff. Routing in slab still possible.
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[^2]: > [!cite] [[joel-jansen]] 2025-08-15, in reference to [[belle-meade-plaza|Belle Meade Plaza]] (pp.)
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> No affect on takeoff. Routing in slab still possible.
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> [!cite] [[joel-jansen]] 2025-08-21, in reference to [[belle-meade-plaza|Belle Meade Plaza]] (pp.)
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> PT slabs do have some affect on takeoff.
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> 3in conduit can not be run in an 11in PT slab.
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[^3]: > [!cite] [[joel-jansen]] 2025-08-21, in reference to [[belle-meade-plaza|Belle Meade Plaza]] (pp.)
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> PT slabs do have some affect on takeoff.
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> 3in conduit can not be run in an 11in PT slab.
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[^4]: [[2026-05-12_09-15-34#Post-Tensioned Slab Considerations]]
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#### Pan Deck Slabs
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[[construction-methods#Pan Deck Slab|Pan Deck Slab]]
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Raceway considerations for
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[[construction-methods#Pan Deck Slab|pan deck slabs]]
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(namely if PVC may be utilized, and if so, what sizes)
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are contentious.[^5]
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> [!cite] [[joel-jansen]] 2025-08-15, in reference to [[belle-meade-plaza|Belle Meade Plaza]] (pp.)
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> Do not route in slab.
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[^5]: > [!cite] [[joel-jansen]] 2025-08-15, in reference to [[belle-meade-plaza|Belle Meade Plaza]] (pp.)
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> Do not route in slab.
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### MC Cable Overhead
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@@ -165,15 +171,15 @@ may only be used where they will be concealed from view.
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#### Multi-Circuit Homeruns
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Different schools of thought exist
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on whether to use multi-neutral MC or pipe and wire for homeruns.
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on whether to use multi-neutral MC or pipe and wire for homeruns.[^6]
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Which is more cost-effective
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is apparently subject to transient market conditions.
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Seek clarification from your senior on a job by job basis.
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> [!quote] Art Baldwin (pp.)
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> Multi-circuit MC is not cost-effective
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> when considering the difficulty of rework.
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> Use conduit, even EMT if necessary.
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[^6]: > [!quote] Art Baldwin (pp.)
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> Multi-circuit MC is not cost-effective
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> when considering the difficulty of rework.
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> Use conduit, even EMT if necessary.
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### EMT Overhead
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@@ -186,7 +192,10 @@ but may not be acceptable.
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> These are usually only mentioned in specifications
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> to say that they are unacceptable.
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[[2025-10-15_09-32-00#Vanderbilt Central Neighborhood Residential College Spec Interpretation]]
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Where only set-screw fittings with two screws are permitted
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no change to takeoff is necessary.[^7]
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[^7]: [[2025-10-15_09-32-00#Vanderbilt Central Neighborhood Residential College Spec Interpretation]]
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## Standard Outdoor Wiring Methods
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@@ -235,7 +244,9 @@ flowchart
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C -- Yes --> NM/SER
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```
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#### Fire Rated Feeders
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## Other Considerations
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### Fire Rated Feeders
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Where required see [[fire-resistive-wiring-methods-takeoff]].
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@@ -245,5 +256,12 @@ in a 2-hour rated assembly.
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This usually requires no change to takeoff for high-rises
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since electrical riser rooms are themselves fire-rated.
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* RHW-2 insulated conductors in conduit --- "Lifeline Cable"
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* 2-hour rated metal clad cable --- "Vitalink"
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### Liquidtight Flex
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* [[nfpa-70_356_lfnc|Liquidtight Flexible Nonmetallic Conduit: Type LFNC]] --- "Carflex"[^8]
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* [[nfpa-70_352_lfmc|Liquidtight Flexible Metal Conduit: Type LFMC]] --- "Sealtite"[^9]
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[^8]: From Carflex®, manufactured by Carlon.
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[^9]: From Anaconda Sealtite®, manufactured by ANAMET Electrical.
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