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but **it is not the role of the estimator to determine acceptable risk**.
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but **it is not the role of the estimator to determine acceptable risk**.
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## Experiment
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## Experiment
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- status/fleeting
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---
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# Favorite Quotes
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# Favorite Quotes
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## About Tools
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## About Tools
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+21
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> STRUCTURAL SLAB IS AN 8-INCH THICK
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> STRUCTURAL SLAB IS AN 8-INCH THICK
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> UNBONDED POST-TENSIONED TWO-WAY SLAB UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE.
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> UNBONDED POST-TENSIONED TWO-WAY SLAB UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE.
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> [!cite] Joel Jansen 2025-08-15, in reference to Belle Meade Plaza, pp.
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> [!cite] Joel Jansen 2025-08-15, in reference to Belle Meade Plaza (pp.)
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> No affect on takeoff. Routing in slab still possible.
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> No affect on takeoff. Routing in slab still possible.
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> [!cite] Joel Jansen 2025-08-21, in reference to Belle Meade Plaza, pp.
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> [!cite] Joel Jansen 2025-08-21, in reference to Belle Meade Plaza (pp.)
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> PT slabs do have some affect on takeoff.
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> PT slabs do have some affect on takeoff.
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> 3in conduit can not be run in an 11in PT slab.
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> 3in conduit can not be run in an 11in PT slab.
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> STRUCTURAL SLAB IS 3 1/2 INCHES OF NORMALWEIGHT CONCRETE
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> STRUCTURAL SLAB IS 3 1/2 INCHES OF NORMALWEIGHT CONCRETE
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> ON 3-INCH COMPOSITE STEEL DECK UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE.
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> ON 3-INCH COMPOSITE STEEL DECK UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE.
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> [!cite] Joel Jansen 2025-08-15, in reference to Belle Meade Plaza, pp.
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> [!cite] Joel Jansen 2025-08-15, in reference to Belle Meade Plaza (pp.)
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> Do not route in slab.
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> Do not route in slab.
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#### Fire Rated Feeders
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PDI estimating practice is to run all "emergency" feeds
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(life-safety or just standby)
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in a 2-hour rated assembly.
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This usually requires no change to takeoff for high-rises
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since electrical riser rooms are themselves fire-rated.
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* RHW-2 insulated conductors in conduit -- "Lifeline Cable"
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* 2-hour rated metal clad cable -- "Vitalink"
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### Formatting
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### Formatting
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All feeder takeoff descriptions should be prefixed with `<parent> TO <child>`
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All feeder takeoff descriptions should be prefixed with `<parent> TO <child>`
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|
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> [!cite] Joel Jansen, in reference to Omni Hotels Raleigh, pp.
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> [!cite] Joel Jansen, in reference to Omni Hotels Raleigh, pp.
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> It is acceptable to use typicals for identical feeders
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> It is acceptable to use typicals for identical feeders
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> (i.e. meter centers fed from bus plugs)
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> so long as the typical is in the Feeders `Area`.
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> so long as the typical is in the Feeders `Area`.
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## Sequence
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## Sequence
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||||||
@@ -50,23 +62,20 @@ All feeder takeoff descriptions should be prefixed with `<parent> TO <child>`
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### 1. Estimate preparation
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### 1. Estimate preparation
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|
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Read about the project specifications and construction type:
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Read about the project specifications and construction type:
|
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* Delivery Method (Plans & Specs, Design Build, Design Assist, Preliminary Budget)
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|
||||||
* Deck thickness
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* Deck thickness
|
||||||
* Wiring method
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* Wiring methods
|
||||||
* Conductor material (Aluminum/Copper)
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* Conductor material
|
||||||
|
* Wire terminations (set-screw acceptable or compression required?)
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
Locate:
|
Locate:
|
||||||
* Riser Diagram
|
* Riser Diagram
|
||||||
* Feeder Schedule (if present)
|
* Feeder Schedule (if present)
|
||||||
* Main Electrical rooms and panel locations
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* Main Electrical rooms and panel locations
|
||||||
* Routing (if present)
|
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
### 2. Takeoff
|
### 2. Takeoff
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
* Choose a starting point on the riser
|
Run parallel to building lines
|
||||||
* Determine wire & Conduit makeup (3Ph/1Ph, AL/CU, Conduit)
|
and route through corridors where possible.
|
||||||
* Measure off the length of the feed _ADDERS_
|
|
||||||
* Square corners, use corridors if possible
|
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
> [!important]
|
> [!important]
|
||||||
> All takeoffs in Systems with names including "site"
|
> All takeoffs in Systems with names including "site"
|
||||||
@@ -84,7 +93,7 @@ Add an additional 5ft (total 15ft) for site runs
|
|||||||
|
|
||||||
#### Primaries
|
#### Primaries
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
Empty conduit.
|
Usually only empty conduit if included.
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
#### Secondaries
|
#### Secondaries
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
|
|||||||
+5
-2
@@ -11,14 +11,17 @@ tags:
|
|||||||
This script is intended to cover both electrical and telecom grounding
|
This script is intended to cover both electrical and telecom grounding
|
||||||
in lieu of detail sufficient for standard takeoff (e.g. a grounding riser).
|
in lieu of detail sufficient for standard takeoff (e.g. a grounding riser).
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
Note that the material provided in this system
|
Note that the material provided in this system is intended to be budgetary,
|
||||||
is intended to be budgetary,
|
|
||||||
not especially consistent with the actual install.
|
not especially consistent with the actual install.
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
## Sequence
|
## Sequence
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
### 1. Estimate preparation
|
### 1. Estimate preparation
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
|
Locate:
|
||||||
|
* Main electric room (service entrance)
|
||||||
|
* Remote electric rooms
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
### 2. Takeoff
|
### 2. Takeoff
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
`COMMON ASSEMBLIES`/`GROUNDING`
|
`COMMON ASSEMBLIES`/`GROUNDING`
|
||||||
|
|||||||
@@ -1,3 +1,8 @@
|
|||||||
|
---
|
||||||
|
id:
|
||||||
|
aliases: []
|
||||||
|
tags: []
|
||||||
|
---
|
||||||
# Pre-Takeoff Confirmation
|
# Pre-Takeoff Confirmation
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
The purpose of the pre-takeoff confirmation
|
The purpose of the pre-takeoff confirmation
|
||||||
@@ -30,7 +35,7 @@ Below is an example provided by Joel Jansen 2025-09-18
|
|||||||
>
|
>
|
||||||
> Units:
|
> Units:
|
||||||
> * Devices -- Standard Duplex/Toggle
|
> * Devices -- Standard Duplex/Toggle
|
||||||
> * USB Rec -- As shown, plus 1 per bedroom (Type A & C).
|
> * USB Rec -- As shown, plus 1 per bedroom (Type A & C).
|
||||||
> * Studs -- Metal in M units, Wood all other locations.
|
> * Studs -- Metal in M units, Wood all other locations.
|
||||||
> * Telecom -- 30" UDP, CAT6. (use 28" in takeoff)
|
> * Telecom -- 30" UDP, CAT6. (use 28" in takeoff)
|
||||||
> * Smoke Det -- 120V
|
> * Smoke Det -- 120V
|
||||||
|
|||||||
Reference in New Issue
Block a user