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## Pre-Takeoff Email Template Meeting
### Scratch
Meeting lead by Josh Ford
to discuss acceptable use of [[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template]]
to discuss acceptable use of [[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template]].
***
### Topics
#### Purpose
Reiterated intent to replace OneNote,
however stated that OneNote might (even should)
be used to track
Template should be pasted into the email body,
not sent as attachment.
To be revisited in audit meeting [[2026-W13|next week]].
Intent is too provide information to the bid team
potentially to be qualified in future bids.
***
> [!example] [[sunset-amphitheater]]
> Cummins generator was spec'd, quoted,
> but not used in estimate because it was not cheapest.
Josh, Corwin, Procurement
to provide a list of "typical PDI manufactures"
for Wire, Generator, Switchgear
rather than include entire list from specs.
> Wire:
> * Encore
> * Okonite
> * Southwire
***
[[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template#Project Drawing/Detail Callouts]]
High-cost impact items
not mentioned in proposal
not shown in Bid Sheet.
* dimming in units
* balcony pedestals
***
[[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template#Lighting Control]]
Intent is to provoke conversation ahead of takeoff
to prevent rework
not necessary to list all areas
if not applicable to project
(code minimum)
***
[[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template#Tasks/Quotes Needed for WBS]]
> BPM has both
> tasks within bid round and
> tasks outside of bid round.
to be revisited in dedicated meeting
***
cc: Josh Ford, Corwin Fluitt, Jessalyn
***
Response from Bid is necessary within three days.
"See proposal" is unacceptable response.
Escalate issue.
***
> 1. ConEst deviates from specs based on direction from Bid.
> 2. Awarded contract does not include respect for the direction
> 3. Ops, not aware of direction, believes ConEst takeoff was in error.
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***
Only when we're touching a job for the first time,
not revisions.
***
Other media were considered,
but email text was determined to be optimal
to prevent lost attachments and broken links.
***
Consistency in formatting is prioritized
ConEst resources to be allocated by availability, not region.
***
Direction from Aaron to improve turnaround
while maintaining standards
including presentability of information;
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> Similar could be said by Ops about ConEst.
> ~~They have more time than us~~
#### Use
Only when we're touching a job for the first time,
not revisions.
Template should be pasted into the email body,
not sent as attachment.
To be revisited in audit meeting [[2026-W13|next week]].
cc: Josh Ford, Corwin Fluitt, Jessalyn
Other media were considered,
but email text was determined to be optimal
to prevent lost attachments and broken links.
Consistency in formatting is prioritized
ConEst resources to be allocated by availability, not region.
Response from Bid is necessary within three days.
"See proposal" is unacceptable response.
Escalate issue.
#### Acceptable Manufacturers
> [!example] [[sunset-amphitheater]]
> Cummins generator was spec'd, quoted,
> but not used in estimate because it was not cheapest.
Josh, Corwin, Procurement
to provide a list of "typical PDI manufactures"
for Wire, Generator, Switchgear
rather than include entire list from specs.
> Wire:
> * Encore
> * Okonite
> * Southwire
#### Project Drawing/Detail Callouts
[[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template#Project Drawing/Detail Callouts]]
High-cost impact items
not mentioned in proposal
not shown in Bid Sheet.
* dimming in units
* balcony pedestals
#### Lighting Control
[[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template#Lighting Control]]
Intent is to provoke conversation ahead of takeoff
to prevent rework
not necessary to list all areas
if not applicable to project
(code minimum)
#### Tasks/Quotes Needed for WBS
[[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template#Tasks/Quotes Needed for WBS]]
> BPM has both
> tasks within bid round and
> tasks outside of bid round.
To be revisited in [[[[2026-03-25_13-17-35#BPM Tasks Meeting|dedicated meeting]]
### Meetings to Follow
* ConEst Audit Scorecard --- [[2026-03-25]]
* BPM --- TBD
* BPM Tasks Meeting --- TBD
* ConEst Town Hall --- TBD
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---
# 2026-03-20 13:44:59
## Unit Smoke Detectors
Relevant to [[fire-alarm-takeoff]],
while reviewing my takeoff for [[1990-k-street]]
Joel had to fix the assemblies I used for unit smoke detectors.
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---
id: 2026-03-26T08:49:49-04:00
aliases: []
title: 2026-03-26 08:49:49
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- status/draft
- type/periodic/timestamped
daily: "[[2026-03-26]]"
date-created: 2026-03-26T08:49:49-04:00
dg-publish: true
monthly: "[[2026-03]]"
quarterly: "[[2026-Q1]]"
weekly: "[[2026-W13]]"
yearly: "[[2026]]"
---
# 2026-03-26 08:49:49
## 1990 K Street Senior Review
Follow-up to [[2026-03-20_13-44-59#2026-03-20 13:44:59]].
Comments by Joel Jansen
Relevant to my takeoff for [[1990-k-street]]:
### Lighting Control Assemblies
Relevant to [[lighting-controls-takeoff]]:
Lighting control assembly selection for the project was contentious
because PDS excluded the system due to lack of information,
but the drawings painted as exact a picture as one could ask for prior to construction.
> Design shows digital control, dimming controlled by occ sensors in stairwells, corridors. \
> ---E021 AUTOMATED LIGHTING CONTROL - SEQUENCES OF OPERATIONS
>
> Proposal excludes digital lighting control due to lack of information. \
> ---Proposal 2026-01-22, Pricing Alternates
>
> Spec 260923 - LIGHTING CONTROL DEVICES \
> Spec 260936 - MODULAR DIMMING CONTROLS
In conversation with Joel,
we agreed that I would use the "FBO" assemblies
with the assumption that an LV system would be budgeted.
> [!quote] 1990 K Street ConEst OneNote, "Lighting Control"
> Takeoff to use FBO assemblies (rough-in, cable, and device labor). \
> ---Joel Jansen 2026-02-11 11:05
After direction I'm not clear on,
Joel switched these to the device labor and material assemblies.
[[lighting-controls-research]]
### Feeder Schedule 5"C
Relevant to [[feeders-takeoff]]:
Feeder schedule calls for 5 inch conduit for certain tags
which PDI's schedule uses 4 inch for.
I did not respect this in the takeoff,
Joel intends to substitute.
***
**\[2026-03-26 09:36\]**
After conversation with Christian,
Joel substituted all EMT feeders for MC cable.
Christian stated that [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|they]]
would qualify the substitution in their next proposal
and raised that 5 inch EMT does not exist in our database anyway[^1].
[^1]: It doesn't exist at all.
See [[nfpa-70_358_emt#358.20(B) Maximum.|NEC 358.20(B)]].
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---
id: 2026-03-26T14:10:46-04:00
aliases: []
title: 2026-03-26 14:10:46
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- status/draft
- type/periodic/timestamped
- occupational
dg-publish: true
date-created: 2026-03-26T14:10:46-04:00
daily: "[[2026-03-26]]"
weekly: "[[2026-W13]]"
monthly: "[[2026-03]]"
quarterly: "[[2026-Q1]]"
yearly: "[[2026]]"
---
# 2026-03-26 14:10:46
## 1990 K Street ConEst Manager Review
ConEst Manager Review for [[1990-k-street]]
lead by Josh Ford and Joel Jansen
### Purpose of ConEst Manager Review
Josh explains purpose of this review to PE
Jobs below 12% margin
are reviewed further with Corwin Fluitt
who is able and authorized
to "make judgement calls" on pricing concerns
in order to get GP to an acceptable number.
PDI MC Cable pricing is market rate,
we have vendor specific pricing with Southwire
up to 20% lower
### Switchgear
Josh will usually not review switchgear takeoff
unless there is significant difference from labor plan
### Primaries & Secondaries
Where PEPCO is the power utility:
typically own nothing for primaries
conduit only for secondaries.
Confirmed for 1990.
### VE's To Be Incorporated Later
* Wire feeders ILO busduct
### Feeders
Fire pump feeds are not tagged as 2hr rated
takeoff assumed 2hr rated MC cable ("Vitalink")
to be confirmed with Christian.
### EV Chargers
EV Chargers were erroneously placed in `System` "EL - Electrical".
### Lighting Controls
Josh was looking for for energy code
not present in pre-takeoff email or OneNote.
ASHRAE 2016
***
Follow-up to [[2026-03-26_08-49-49#Lighting Control Assemblies]].
Josh confirmed the switch to complete-furnish assemblies was appropriate.
### Labor Plan
Garage Slab/Deck is $1.30/sf
where $1.00/sf was expected.
Josh attributes this mainly to the EV chargers and CO system.
Innerduct: Use 3hrs per Unit.
### Scratch
Composite Cleanup is based on 8hrs per week for every 10 crew
Coordination Study: Expect $15k per $10m of switchgear package
#### Temporary Lighting
Temp lighting budget does not include heating
or lighting in units ("task lighting")
#### Rigging
3rd party rigging quotes are only for special cases.
It is expected that the GC's crane
can be used to set switchboards and generators.
On 1990, the GC (Clarke) RFP provides 16 hours crane time.