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### Belle Meade Director Review
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Estimating Director Review for [[belle-meade-plaza]]
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[[estimating-director-review]] for [[belle-meade-plaza]]
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lead by [[corwin-fluit]],
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attended by [[joel-jansen]] and myself.
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# 2026-01-07 16:03:??
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There is a palpable animosity for [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|Bid]]
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in [[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)|ConEst]],
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in [[conest]],
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stemming (I believe) from an lack of buy-in on Bid's part.
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The lack is easily explained by their [[estimating-culture#Incentives|incentive structure]]:
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---
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# 2026-01-13 11:28:14
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### 2100 Crystal Drive ConEst Manager Review
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### 2100 Crystal Drive: ConEst Manager Review
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ConEst Manager Review for [[2100-crystal-drive]]
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[[conest-manager-review]] for [[2100-crystal-drive]]
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lead by [[josh-ford]],
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attended by [[joel-jansen]] and myself.
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---
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# 2026-02-03 16:17:00
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Valued in [[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)|ConEst]] estimators:
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Valued in [[conest]] estimators:
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* **consistency**
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* **humility** --- willingness to say "I don't know that, please teach me"
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## Questions for ConEst
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[[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)]]
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[[conest]]
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### Purpose of ConEst
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## Hampton Roads Navy - Norfolk: Director Review
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Director Review of [[hampton-roads-navy_norfolk]].
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### Dramatis Personae
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Director of ConEst: [[corwin-fluit|Corwin Fluit]]
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Bid Estimator: [[christian-pereiro|Christian Pereiro]]
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Senior ConEst Estimator: [[joel-jansen|Joel Jansen]]
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ConEst Estimator: [[zane-meyers|Zane Meyers]]
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[[estimating-director-review]] of [[hampton-roads-navy_norfolk]]
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lead by [[corwin-fluit]],
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attended by [[christian-pereiro]], [[joel-jansen]], and myself.
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### Lighting Control
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## Conversation Regarding ConEst Pre-Takeoff Email Template
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A conversation with a peer via Microsoft teams
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regarding [[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)|ConEst]]'s
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regarding [[conest]]'s
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recent implementation of a "pre-takeoff email template".
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[[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template]]
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---
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# 2026-03-18 11:31:07
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Takeoff directive for [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]]
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Directive for [[feeders-takeoff]] and [[switchgear-takeoff]]
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for [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]]
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from [[joel-jansen]]:
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## Feeder Length Rounding
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Direction for [[telecom-takeoff]] and [[low-voltage-takeoff]]
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concerning the proper interpretation of "free-air per code"
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as used by [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|Bid]] to qualify our scope.
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Relevant to [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]].
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> [!quote] [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]] Proposal 2025-12-12 Ex. B Notes
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> [!quote] Charlotte South End Proposal 2025-12-12 Ex. B Notes
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> * All Fire Alarm and Low Voltage cabling
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> is to \[be\] installed via free-air
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> in all areas excepted \[sic.\] by code
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Strictly speaking, requirements for communications wiring
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(governed by [[nfpa-70_national-electric-code#^ch8|NEC Chapter 8]])
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(governed by [[nfpa-70_national-electric-code#Chapter 8 Communications Systems|NEC Chapter 8]])
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are minimal.
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> [!quote] [[joel-jansen]] 2026-03-24 (pp.)
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> If rough-in for Telecom or a Low Voltage system is included,
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> even if qualified as "free-air per code" or similar,
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> always provide backboxes and conduit stub-ups for outlets
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> in other than units.
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> in other than units[^1].
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Joel confirmed this direction is not region specific.
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[^1]: Where "free-air per code" applies to units,
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conduit and backboxes should never be provided for Telecom or LV.
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See [[2026-04-01_13-24-18#Unit Telecom/LV Outlets Where "Free-Air Per Code"]]
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- destiny/permanent
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- status/draft
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- type/periodic/timestamped
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- occupational
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daily: "[[2026-03-26]]"
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date-created: 2026-03-26T08:49:49-04:00
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dg-publish: true
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---
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# 2026-03-26 14:10:46
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## 1990 K Street ConEst Manager Review
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## 1990 K Street: ConEst Manager Review
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ConEst Manager Review for [[1990-k-street]]
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[[conest-manager-review]] for [[1990-k-street]]
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lead by Josh Ford and [[joel-jansen]]
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### Purpose of ConEst Manager Review
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id: 2026-04-01T08:54:53-04:00
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aliases: []
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title: 2026-04-01 08:54:53
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tags:
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- authorship/original
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- destiny/permanent
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- status/draft
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- type/periodic/timestamped
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dg-publish: true
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date-created: 2026-04-01T08:54:53-04:00
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daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
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weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
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monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
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quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
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yearly: "[[2026]]"
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---
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# 2026-04-01 08:54:53
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## Corporate Jargon
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* circle back
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* go from there
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* touch base
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id: 2026-04-01T11:08:18-04:00
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aliases: []
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title: 2026-04-01 11:08:18
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tags:
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- authorship/original
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- destiny/permanent
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- status/draft
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- type/periodic/timestamped
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- occupational
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dg-publish: true
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date-created: 2026-04-01T11:08:18-04:00
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daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
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weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
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monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
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quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
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yearly: "[[2026]]"
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# 2026-04-01 11:08:18
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## Exterior Amenity vs. Site
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Clarification from [[joel-jansen]] on [[pdi-breakdowns]],
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provided while he reviews [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]].
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![[exterior-amenity-vs-site.png]]
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In the example above,
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the uplights (XS-B, XS-G) should be [[pdi-breakdowns#Bid Item Site|Site]]
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and the downlights (XR-D) should be [[pdi-breakdowns#Phase Back of House (BOH)|Back of House]].
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==Only the enclosed area should be [[pdi-breakdowns#Area Exterior Amenity]].???==
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In my takeoff I considered all of these Exterior Amenity,
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though I'm not sure of my rationale, if I had any.
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id: 2026-04-01T13:24:18-04:00
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aliases: []
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title: 2026-04-01 13:24:18
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tags:
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- authorship/original
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- destiny/permanent
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- status/draft
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- type/periodic/timestamped
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- occupational/takeoff
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dg-publish: true
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date-created: 2026-04-01T13:24:18-04:00
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daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
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weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
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monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
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quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
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yearly: "[[2026]]"
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---
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# 2026-04-01 13:24:18
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## Unit Telecom/LV Outlets Where "Free-Air Per Code"
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Direction from [[joel-jansen]]
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relevant to my [[units-takeoff]]/[[telecom-takeoff]]
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for [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]].
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I originally included EMT to the corridor for unit data drops.
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Joel asked if I had seen a note in the drawings or otherwise requiring this.
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I assumed I must have and went to find it, but stopped.
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Recalling our discussion described in [[2026-03-25_08-14-59#"Free-Air Per Code"]],
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I asked if it would even matter if I had.
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Joel replied that it wouldn't,
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and said that he would be swapping the assemblies
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for their LV-bracket-only equivalents.
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id: 2026-04-01T13:56:44-04:00
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title: 2026-04-01 13:56:44
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tags:
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- status/draft
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daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
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date-created: 2026-04-01T13:56:44-04:00
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dg-publish: true
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monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
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quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
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weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
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yearly: "[[2026]]"
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---
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# 2026-04-01 13:56:44
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### Charlotte South End Hotel: ConEst Manager Review
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[[conest-manager-review]] for [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]]
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lead by [[josh-ford]],
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attended by [[joel-jansen]] and myself.
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#### Feeders
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"MSA TO BUSDUCT"
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needs more elbows: added.
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Josh talked about necessary pullboxes,
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but they were not added.
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Josh stated the purpose of the closeout budget
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is to prevent procurement from buying sizes
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that may be chosen arbitrarily.
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Added $5,000 to the budget.
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Concern was expressed
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that feeders up from Main Elec may need to be lengthened
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to follow MSA TO BUSDUCT routing shown on floor plans.
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***
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> [!quote] Josh Ford
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> I really like that your feeders are whole numbers, that's nice.
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***
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Generator control wiring missing?
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may be taken off as mech?
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not resolved, moved on?
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#### Subfeeds
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##### Unit Mech Connections
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concern that subfeeds may be double dipping
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suggest decreasing if tightening is needed
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##### Routing
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Josh complemented subfeed routing:
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"That's taking pride in your work."
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I have had hesitation that it was worth doing,
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if someone told be it was a waste of time,
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I would not have been inclined to disagree.
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#### Units
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Unit receptacles are shown controlled by master switch system.
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I assumed full control (not half) so no made no consideration in takeoff.
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Approved.
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#### Lighting Control
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DO NOT USE `System` "LV - Lighting Controls System" EVER
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#### My Mistakes
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> [!failure]
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> Port Cochere was taken off as Exterior Amenity.
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> Joel corrected this without telling me.
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> [!failure]
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> Missed unit occupancy sensors
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#### Closeout
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> [!quote] Josh Ford
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> We're carrying material handling
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> because we own fixtures and its a tall building
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#### Labor Plan
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\$1.41 per sf garage, expected ~\$1.00
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***
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0.182 hrs/sf seems incredibly high,
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expected ~0.120.
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#### Aside
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> [!aside]
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> [[estimating-golf]] question:
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> "you only have one main switchboard?"
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***
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Josh found the answer to a question of scope
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in the qualifications of Bid's proposal.
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he said he did not immediately think to look for them
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because they are rare of current proposals.
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Apparently they are penalized by the Proposal Audit Scorecard.
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"They wanted it uniform so they stopped putting qualifications on proposals"
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***
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[[megan-blizard]]
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id: 2026-04-01T16:36:31-04:00
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title: 2026-04-01 16:36:31
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tags:
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date-created: 2026-04-01T16:36:31-04:00
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daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
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weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
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monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
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quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
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yearly: "[[2026]]"
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---
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# 2026-04-01 16:36:31
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My peer working on [[virginia-live-casino-and-hotel]]
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pointed out the raised floor system used in the gaming area.
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They asked if MC cable would be acceptable
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for a mechanical connection in the area.
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I replied that it would be acceptable
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according to the [[nfpa-70_national-electric-code|NEC]],
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but that I wouldn't be surprised
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if it was specifically forbidden by the specifications.
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In response they asked what _would_ be acceptable
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assuming that MC cable was not.
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I said immediately "EMT",
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but corrected myself that PVC is also code permissible,
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and they would need to rule it out before jumping to EMT.
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I pointed out that this consideration was also relevant
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to the floor boxes shown in the same area.
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The heating designations built for the purpose by the previous estimator used PVC.
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These were likely built from the existing floor box assemblies without modification.
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At this, the estimator and I discussed wiring method selection in general.
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For the jobs the two of us are assigned,
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PVC is usually never acceptable except underground or in-slab,
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however I explained that this is due to near universal specification,
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not code compliance.
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It is apparently typical of Florida jobs to run PVC
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in most areas we would expect to use EMT,
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even where in plain view.
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The estimator said their strategy is to assume EMT assemblies
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with the expectation that they may need to substitute them
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following [[conest-senior-review]].
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This is a [[heuristics|heuristic]]
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in that it achieves an outcome acceptable to the estimator
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despite being objectionable according to established[^1] [[conest]] practice.
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[^1]: As far as it can be said to be established...
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Many seniors would expect that every estimator
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know how to determine acceptable wiring method selection
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for arbitrary construction considerations
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given the project documents.
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This is a deceptively naive expectation:---
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What is acceptable according to the drawings and specifications
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is frequently in contradiction with what was sold,
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which is frequently in contradiction with what was _believed_ to be sold.
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Determining "acceptability" then, is nontrivial for estimators
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who, by all rights, ought not have to concern themselves
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with resolving ambiguity so egregious it ought to be reprimanded.
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