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but it is sometimes necessary to use a copper EGC with aluminum wires, but it is sometimes necessary to use a copper EGC with aluminum wires,
either for spec requirements or conduit fill considerations. either for spec requirements or conduit fill considerations.
## Dwelling Unit Services
![[nfpa-70_310_conductors_for_general_wiring#Table 310.12 Single-Phase Dwelling Services and Feeders|Table 310.12]]
## Voltage Drop ## Voltage Drop
[[voltage-drop]] [[voltage-drop]]
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---
id:
aliases: []
title: ConEst Manager Review
tags:
- occupational
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- status/incomplete
- type/process
---
# ConEst Manager Review
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### Construction Estimating (ConEst)
The role of ConEst is to provide context to Bid estimates.
#### ConEst Processes
* [[design-build-budget]]
* [[full-takeoff]]
#### ConEst Deliverables
* [[pdi-project-start-notification]]
#### ConEst Terminology
* [[pdi-estimating-systems]]
#### ConEst Expectations
* [[estimator-skills]]
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### Construction Estimating (ConEst)
The role of ConEst is to provide context to Bid estimates.
#### ConEst Processes
* [[design-build-budget]]
* [[full-takeoff]]
#### ConEst Deliverables
* [[pdi-project-start-notification]]
#### ConEst Terminology
* [[pdi-estimating-systems]]
#### ConEst Expectations
* [[estimator-skills]]
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id:
aliases: []
title: Corwin Fluit
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- occupational
- status/not-started
- type/person
---
# Corwin Fluit
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--- ---
id: electrical id:
aliases: [] aliases: []
title: Electrical Takeoff title: Electrical Takeoff
tags: tags:
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id:
aliases: []
title: Estimating Director Review
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- occupational
- status/incomplete
- type/process
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# Estimating Director Review
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id:
aliases: []
title: Joel Jansen
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- occupational
- type/person
---
# Joel Jansen
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---
id:
aliases: []
title: Josh Ford
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- occupational
- status/not-started
- type/person
---
# Josh Ford
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Assembly selection for lighting controls is _never_ straightforward, Assembly selection for lighting controls is _never_ straightforward,
even where it ought to be. even where it ought to be.
There _must_ be conversation and consensus There _must_ be conversation and consensus
between the [[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)|ConEst]] between the [[conest]]
and [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|Bid]] senior estimators and [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|Bid]] senior estimators
before takeoff can begin. before takeoff can begin.
This note is intended to assist in collecting all information This note is intended to assist in collecting all information
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id:
aliases: []
title: Megan Blizard
tags: []
---
# Megan Blizard
Director of Estimating Operations
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%% %%
[[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)]] [[conest]]
## Goals ## Goals
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##### 250.102(E)(1) Inside a Raceway or an Enclosure. ##### 250.102(E)(1) Inside a Raceway or an Enclosure.
If installed inside a raceway, equipment bonding jumpers and bonding jumpers or conductors shall comply with the requirements of If installed inside a raceway, equipment bonding jumpers and bonding jumpers or conductors shall comply with the requirements of 250.119 and 250.148.
### 250.119 and 250.148.
##### 250.102(E)(2) Outside a Raceway or an Enclosure. ##### 250.102(E)(2) Outside a Raceway or an Enclosure.
@@ -1839,11 +1837,56 @@ The wire-type equipment grounding conductor shall be sized in accordance with 25
Equipment grounding conductors installed with feeder taps shall not be smaller than shown in Table 250.122 based on the rating of the overcurrent device ahead of the feeder on the supply side ahead of the tap but shall not be required to be larger than the tap conductors. Equipment grounding conductors installed with feeder taps shall not be smaller than shown in Table 250.122 based on the rating of the overcurrent device ahead of the feeder on the supply side ahead of the tap but shall not be required to be larger than the tap conductors.
%% TODO %% #### Table 250.122 Minimum Size Equipment Grounding Conductors for Grounding Raceway and Equipment
Note: Where necessary to comply with 250.4(A)(5) or (B)(4), the equipment grounding conductor shall be sized larger than given in this table. | Rating or Setting of Automatic Overcurrent Device in Circuit Ahead of Equipment, Conduit, etc., Not Exceeding (Amperes) | Size (AWG or kcmil) |
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------- |
| **Copper** | |
| 15 | 14 |
| 20 | 12 |
| 60 | 10 |
| 100 | 8 |
| 200 | 6 |
| 300 | 4 |
| 400 | 3 |
| 500 | 2 |
| 600 | 1 |
| 800 | 1/0 |
| 1000 | 2/0 |
| 1200 | 3/0 |
| 1600 | 4/0 |
| 2000 | 250 |
| 2500 | 350 |
| 3000 | 400 |
| 4000 | 500 |
| 5000 | 700 |
| 6000 | 800 |
| | |
| **Aluminum or Copper-Clad Aluminum**<sup>\*</sup> | |
| 15 | 12 |
| 20 | 10 |
| 60 | 8 |
| 100 | 6 |
| 200 | 4 |
| 300 | 2 |
| 400 | 1 |
| 500 | 1/0 |
| 600 | 2/0 |
| 800 | 3/0 |
| 1000 | 4/0 |
| 1200 | 250 |
| 1600 | 350 |
| 2000 | 400 |
| 2500 | 600 |
| 3000 | 600 |
| 4000 | 750 |
| 5000 | 1250 |
| 6000 | 1250 |
\*See installation restrictions in 250.120. Note: Where necessary to comply with 250.4(A)(5) or (B)(4),
the equipment grounding conductor shall be sized larger than given in this table.
<sup>\*</sup>See installation restrictions in [[#250.120 Equipment Grounding Conductor Installation.|250.120]].
### 250.124 Equipment Grounding Conductor Continuity. ### 250.124 Equipment Grounding Conductor Continuity.
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> Thermoplastic insulation may also be deformed at normal temperatures > Thermoplastic insulation may also be deformed at normal temperatures
> where subjected to pressure, such as at points of support. > where subjected to pressure, such as at points of support.
#### Table 310.4(A) Conductor Applications and Insulations Rated 600 Volts ^t310-4a #### Table 310.4(A) Conductor Applications and Insulations Rated 600 Volts
%% TABLE OMITTED %% %% TABLE OMITTED %%
#### Table 310.4(B) Thickness of Insulation for Nonshielded Types RHH and RHW Solid Dielectric Insulated Conductors Rated 2000 Volts ^t310-4b #### Table 310.4(B) Thickness of Insulation for Nonshielded Types RHH and RHW Solid Dielectric Insulated Conductors Rated 2000 Volts
%% TABLE OMITTED %% %% TABLE OMITTED %%
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#### 310.6(B) Equipment Grounding Conductors. #### 310.6(B) Equipment Grounding Conductors.
Equipment grounding conductors shall be identified in accordance with 250.119. Equipment grounding conductors shall be identified in accordance with [[nfpa-70_250_grounding#250.119 Identification of Equipment Grounding Conductors.|250.119]].
#### 310.6(C) Ungrounded Conductors. #### 310.6(C) Ungrounded Conductors.
@@ -314,23 +314,33 @@ Where correction or adjustment factors are required by 310.15(B) or (C), they sh
#### Table 310.12 Single-Phase Dwelling Services and Feeders #### Table 310.12 Single-Phase Dwelling Services and Feeders
%% TODO: unpivot %% | Service or Feeder Rating (Amperes) | Conductor (AWG or kcmil) |
| ------------------------------------ | ------------------------ |
Conductor (AWG or kcmil) | **Copper** | |
| 100 | 4 |
| Service or Feeder Rating (Amperes) | Copper | Aluminum or Copper-Clad Aluminum | | 110 | 3 |
| ---------------------------------- | ------ | -------------------------------- | | 125 | 2 |
| 100 | 4 | 2 | | 150 | 1 |
| 110 | 3 | 1 | | 175 | 1/0 |
| 125 | 2 | 1/0 | | 200 | 2/0 |
| 150 | 1 | 2/0 | | 225 | 3/0 |
| 175 | 1/0 | 3/0 | | 250 | 4/0 |
| 200 | 2/0 | 4/0 | | 300 | 250 |
| 225 | 3/0 | 250 | | 350 | 350 |
| 250 | 4/0 | 300 | | 400 | 400 |
| 300 | 250 | 350 | | | |
| 350 | 350 | 500 | | **Aluminum or Copper-Clad Aluminum** | |
| 400 | 400 | 600 | | 100 | 2 |
| 110 | 1 |
| 125 | 1/0 |
| 150 | 2/0 |
| 175 | 3/0 |
| 200 | 4/0 |
| 225 | 250 |
| 250 | 300 |
| 300 | 350 |
| 350 | 500 |
| 400 | 600 |
Note: If no adjustment or correction factors are required, this table shall be permitted to be applied. Note: If no adjustment or correction factors are required, this table shall be permitted to be applied.
@@ -398,7 +408,7 @@ Under engineering supervision, conductor ampacities shall be permitted to be cal
##### Equation 310.14(B) ##### Equation 310.14(B)
$$ $$
I = \sqrt{ \frac{T_{c} - T_{a}}{R_{dc}(1+Y_{c})R_{ca}} } I = \sqrt{ \frac{T_{c} - T_{a}}{R_{dc}(1+Y_{c})R_{ca}} } \times 10^3~\text{amperes}
$$ $$
where: where:
@@ -452,13 +462,14 @@ in accordance with the provisions of 110.14(C).
> [!info] Informational Note No. 4: > [!info] Informational Note No. 4:
> For explanation of type letters used in tables > For explanation of type letters used in tables
> and for recognized sizes of conductors for the various conductor insulations, > and for recognized sizes of conductors for the various conductor insulations,
> see Table 310.4(A) > see [[#Table 310.4(A) Conductor Applications and Insulations Rated 600 Volts|Table 310.4(A)]]
> and Table 310.4(B). > and [[#Table 310.4(B) Thickness of Insulation for Nonshielded Types RHH and RHW Solid Dielectric Insulated Conductors Rated 2000 Volts|Table 310.4(B)]].
> For installation requirements, > For installation requirements,
> see 310.1 through 310.14 > see 310.1
> through 310.14
> and the various articles of this Code. > and the various articles of this Code.
> For flexible cords, > For flexible cords,
> see Table 400.4, > see Table 400.4,[[nfpa-70_400_flexible-cords]]
> Table 400.5(A)(1), > Table 400.5(A)(1),
> and Table 400.5(A)(2). > and Table 400.5(A)(2).
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---
id:
aliases:
- nec-400
title: ARTICLE 400 Flexible Cords and Flexible Cables
tags:
- authorship/other
- destiny/permanent
- exclude-from-word-count
- status/incomplete
- topic/construction/electrical
- type/media/reference
dg-publish: false
---
# ARTICLE 400 Flexible Cords and Flexible Cables
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* [[nfpa-70_760|760 Fire Alarm Systems]] * [[nfpa-70_760|760 Fire Alarm Systems]]
* [[nfpa-70_770|770 Optical Fiber Cables]] * [[nfpa-70_770|770 Optical Fiber Cables]]
## Chapter 8 Communications Systems ^ch8 ## Chapter 8 Communications Systems
* [[nfpa-70_800|800 General Requirements for Communications Systems]] * [[nfpa-70_800|800 General Requirements for Communications Systems]]
* [[nfpa-70_805|805 Communications Circuits]] * [[nfpa-70_805|805 Communications Circuits]]
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which only include 20A provisions which only include 20A provisions
(microwaves, commercial refrigerators, etc.). (microwaves, commercial refrigerators, etc.).
##### Area: Ballrooms
* `Area` = "XX - Level XX Ballrooms Building"
* `Phase` = "Ballrooms"
##### Area: Exterior Amenity
* `Area` = "XX - Level XX Exterior Amenity Building"
* `Phase` = "Exterior Amenity"
##### Area: Porte Cochere ##### Area: Porte Cochere
> [!info] Also Known As > [!info] Also Known As
@@ -128,7 +138,7 @@ Does not include finished restaurants
> [!quote] [[joel-jansen]] to William Bonn 2025-12-05 (pp.) > [!quote] [[joel-jansen]] to William Bonn 2025-12-05 (pp.)
> PDI Accubid `Phase` "Office Space" > PDI Accubid `Phase` "Office Space"
> is normally used for core & shell retail office space > is normally used for core & shell retail office space.
Interpreted as tenant coworking space, a la Interpreted as tenant coworking space, a la
[Coworking & Office Space in St. Pete | Rising Tide](https://risingtidecowork.com/) [Coworking & Office Space in St. Pete | Rising Tide](https://risingtidecowork.com/)
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### Construction Estimating (ConEst) ### Construction Estimating (ConEst)
The role of ConEst is to provide context to Bid estimates. Main article: [[conest]]
#### ConEst Processes
* [[design-build-budget]]
* [[full-takeoff]]
#### ConEst Deliverables
* [[pdi-project-start-notification]]
#### ConEst Terminology
* [[pdi-estimating-systems]]
#### ConEst Expectations
* [[estimator-skills]]
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### Belle Meade Director Review ### Belle Meade Director Review
Estimating Director Review for [[belle-meade-plaza]] [[estimating-director-review]] for [[belle-meade-plaza]]
lead by [[corwin-fluit]], lead by [[corwin-fluit]],
attended by [[joel-jansen]] and myself. attended by [[joel-jansen]] and myself.
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# 2026-01-07 16:03:?? # 2026-01-07 16:03:??
There is a palpable animosity for [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|Bid]] There is a palpable animosity for [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|Bid]]
in [[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)|ConEst]], in [[conest]],
stemming (I believe) from an lack of buy-in on Bid's part. stemming (I believe) from an lack of buy-in on Bid's part.
The lack is easily explained by their [[estimating-culture#Incentives|incentive structure]]: The lack is easily explained by their [[estimating-culture#Incentives|incentive structure]]:
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--- ---
# 2026-01-13 11:28:14 # 2026-01-13 11:28:14
### 2100 Crystal Drive ConEst Manager Review ### 2100 Crystal Drive: ConEst Manager Review
ConEst Manager Review for [[2100-crystal-drive]] [[conest-manager-review]] for [[2100-crystal-drive]]
lead by [[josh-ford]], lead by [[josh-ford]],
attended by [[joel-jansen]] and myself. attended by [[joel-jansen]] and myself.
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--- ---
# 2026-02-03 16:17:00 # 2026-02-03 16:17:00
Valued in [[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)|ConEst]] estimators: Valued in [[conest]] estimators:
* **consistency** * **consistency**
* **humility** --- willingness to say "I don't know that, please teach me" * **humility** --- willingness to say "I don't know that, please teach me"
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## Questions for ConEst ## Questions for ConEst
[[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)]] [[conest]]
### Purpose of ConEst ### Purpose of ConEst
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## Hampton Roads Navy - Norfolk: Director Review ## Hampton Roads Navy - Norfolk: Director Review
Director Review of [[hampton-roads-navy_norfolk]]. [[estimating-director-review]] of [[hampton-roads-navy_norfolk]]
lead by [[corwin-fluit]],
### Dramatis Personae attended by [[christian-pereiro]], [[joel-jansen]], and myself.
Director of ConEst: [[corwin-fluit|Corwin Fluit]]
Bid Estimator: [[christian-pereiro|Christian Pereiro]]
Senior ConEst Estimator: [[joel-jansen|Joel Jansen]]
ConEst Estimator: [[zane-meyers|Zane Meyers]]
### Lighting Control ### Lighting Control
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## Conversation Regarding ConEst Pre-Takeoff Email Template ## Conversation Regarding ConEst Pre-Takeoff Email Template
A conversation with a peer via Microsoft teams A conversation with a peer via Microsoft teams
regarding [[pdi-estimating#Construction Estimating (ConEst)|ConEst]]'s regarding [[conest]]'s
recent implementation of a "pre-takeoff email template". recent implementation of a "pre-takeoff email template".
[[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template]] [[conest-pre-takeoff-email-template]]
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--- ---
# 2026-03-18 11:31:07 # 2026-03-18 11:31:07
Takeoff directive for [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]] Directive for [[feeders-takeoff]] and [[switchgear-takeoff]]
for [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]]
from [[joel-jansen]]: from [[joel-jansen]]:
## Feeder Length Rounding ## Feeder Length Rounding
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Direction for [[telecom-takeoff]] and [[low-voltage-takeoff]] Direction for [[telecom-takeoff]] and [[low-voltage-takeoff]]
concerning the proper interpretation of "free-air per code" concerning the proper interpretation of "free-air per code"
as used by [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|Bid]] to qualify our scope. as used by [[pdi-estimating#Bid Estimating|Bid]] to qualify our scope.
Relevant to [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]].
> [!quote] [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]] Proposal 2025-12-12 Ex. B Notes > [!quote] Charlotte South End Proposal 2025-12-12 Ex. B Notes
> * All Fire Alarm and Low Voltage cabling > * All Fire Alarm and Low Voltage cabling
> is to \[be\] installed via free-air > is to \[be\] installed via free-air
> in all areas excepted \[sic.\] by code > in all areas excepted \[sic.\] by code
Strictly speaking, requirements for communications wiring Strictly speaking, requirements for communications wiring
(governed by [[nfpa-70_national-electric-code#^ch8|NEC Chapter 8]]) (governed by [[nfpa-70_national-electric-code#Chapter 8 Communications Systems|NEC Chapter 8]])
are minimal. are minimal.
> [!quote] [[joel-jansen]] 2026-03-24 (pp.) > [!quote] [[joel-jansen]] 2026-03-24 (pp.)
> If rough-in for Telecom or a Low Voltage system is included, > If rough-in for Telecom or a Low Voltage system is included,
> even if qualified as "free-air per code" or similar, > even if qualified as "free-air per code" or similar,
> always provide backboxes and conduit stub-ups for outlets > always provide backboxes and conduit stub-ups for outlets
> in other than units. > in other than units[^1].
Joel confirmed this direction is not region specific. Joel confirmed this direction is not region specific.
[^1]: Where "free-air per code" applies to units,
conduit and backboxes should never be provided for Telecom or LV.
See [[2026-04-01_13-24-18#Unit Telecom/LV Outlets Where "Free-Air Per Code"]]
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- destiny/permanent - destiny/permanent
- status/draft - status/draft
- type/periodic/timestamped - type/periodic/timestamped
- occupational
daily: "[[2026-03-26]]" daily: "[[2026-03-26]]"
date-created: 2026-03-26T08:49:49-04:00 date-created: 2026-03-26T08:49:49-04:00
dg-publish: true dg-publish: true
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--- ---
# 2026-03-26 14:10:46 # 2026-03-26 14:10:46
## 1990 K Street ConEst Manager Review ## 1990 K Street: ConEst Manager Review
ConEst Manager Review for [[1990-k-street]] [[conest-manager-review]] for [[1990-k-street]]
lead by Josh Ford and [[joel-jansen]] lead by Josh Ford and [[joel-jansen]]
### Purpose of ConEst Manager Review ### Purpose of ConEst Manager Review
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---
id: 2026-04-01T08:54:53-04:00
aliases: []
title: 2026-04-01 08:54:53
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- status/draft
- type/periodic/timestamped
dg-publish: true
date-created: 2026-04-01T08:54:53-04:00
daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
yearly: "[[2026]]"
---
# 2026-04-01 08:54:53
## Corporate Jargon
* circle back
* go from there
* touch base
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---
id: 2026-04-01T11:08:18-04:00
aliases: []
title: 2026-04-01 11:08:18
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- status/draft
- type/periodic/timestamped
- occupational
dg-publish: true
date-created: 2026-04-01T11:08:18-04:00
daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
yearly: "[[2026]]"
---
# 2026-04-01 11:08:18
## Exterior Amenity vs. Site
Clarification from [[joel-jansen]] on [[pdi-breakdowns]],
provided while he reviews [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]].
![[exterior-amenity-vs-site.png]]
In the example above,
the uplights (XS-B, XS-G) should be [[pdi-breakdowns#Bid Item Site|Site]]
and the downlights (XR-D) should be [[pdi-breakdowns#Phase Back of House (BOH)|Back of House]].
==Only the enclosed area should be [[pdi-breakdowns#Area Exterior Amenity]].???==
In my takeoff I considered all of these Exterior Amenity,
though I'm not sure of my rationale, if I had any.
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---
id: 2026-04-01T13:24:18-04:00
aliases: []
title: 2026-04-01 13:24:18
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- status/draft
- type/periodic/timestamped
- occupational/takeoff
dg-publish: true
date-created: 2026-04-01T13:24:18-04:00
daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
yearly: "[[2026]]"
---
# 2026-04-01 13:24:18
## Unit Telecom/LV Outlets Where "Free-Air Per Code"
Direction from [[joel-jansen]]
relevant to my [[units-takeoff]]/[[telecom-takeoff]]
for [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]].
I originally included EMT to the corridor for unit data drops.
Joel asked if I had seen a note in the drawings or otherwise requiring this.
I assumed I must have and went to find it, but stopped.
Recalling our discussion described in [[2026-03-25_08-14-59#"Free-Air Per Code"]],
I asked if it would even matter if I had.
Joel replied that it wouldn't,
and said that he would be swapping the assemblies
for their LV-bracket-only equivalents.
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id: 2026-04-01T13:56:44-04:00
aliases: []
title: 2026-04-01 13:56:44
tags:
- authorship/original
- destiny/permanent
- status/draft
- type/periodic/timestamped
daily: "[[2026-04-01]]"
date-created: 2026-04-01T13:56:44-04:00
dg-publish: true
monthly: "[[2026-04]]"
quarterly: "[[2026-Q2]]"
weekly: "[[2026-W14]]"
yearly: "[[2026]]"
---
# 2026-04-01 13:56:44
### Charlotte South End Hotel: ConEst Manager Review
[[conest-manager-review]] for [[charlotte-south-end-hotel]]
lead by [[josh-ford]],
attended by [[joel-jansen]] and myself.
#### Feeders
"MSA TO BUSDUCT"
needs more elbows: added.
Josh talked about necessary pullboxes,
but they were not added.
Josh stated the purpose of the closeout budget
is to prevent procurement from buying sizes
that may be chosen arbitrarily.
Added $5,000 to the budget.
Concern was expressed
that feeders up from Main Elec may need to be lengthened
to follow MSA TO BUSDUCT routing shown on floor plans.
***
> [!quote] Josh Ford
> I really like that your feeders are whole numbers, that's nice.
***
Generator control wiring missing?
may be taken off as mech?
not resolved, moved on?
#### Subfeeds
##### Unit Mech Connections
concern that subfeeds may be double dipping
suggest decreasing if tightening is needed
##### Routing
Josh complemented subfeed routing:
"That's taking pride in your work."
I have had hesitation that it was worth doing,
if someone told be it was a waste of time,
I would not have been inclined to disagree.
#### Units
Unit receptacles are shown controlled by master switch system.
I assumed full control (not half) so no made no consideration in takeoff.
Approved.
#### Lighting Control
DO NOT USE `System` "LV - Lighting Controls System" EVER
#### My Mistakes
> [!failure]
> Port Cochere was taken off as Exterior Amenity.
> Joel corrected this without telling me.
> [!failure]
> Missed unit occupancy sensors
#### Closeout
> [!quote] Josh Ford
> We're carrying material handling
> because we own fixtures and its a tall building
#### Labor Plan
\$1.41 per sf garage, expected ~\$1.00
***
0.182 hrs/sf seems incredibly high,
expected ~0.120.
#### Aside
> [!aside]
> [[estimating-golf]] question:
> "you only have one main switchboard?"
***
Josh found the answer to a question of scope
in the qualifications of Bid's proposal.
he said he did not immediately think to look for them
because they are rare of current proposals.
Apparently they are penalized by the Proposal Audit Scorecard.
"They wanted it uniform so they stopped putting qualifications on proposals"
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# 2026-04-01 16:36:31
My peer working on [[virginia-live-casino-and-hotel]]
pointed out the raised floor system used in the gaming area.
They asked if MC cable would be acceptable
for a mechanical connection in the area.
I replied that it would be acceptable
according to the [[nfpa-70_national-electric-code|NEC]],
but that I wouldn't be surprised
if it was specifically forbidden by the specifications.
In response they asked what _would_ be acceptable
assuming that MC cable was not.
I said immediately "EMT",
but corrected myself that PVC is also code permissible,
and they would need to rule it out before jumping to EMT.
I pointed out that this consideration was also relevant
to the floor boxes shown in the same area.
The heating designations built for the purpose by the previous estimator used PVC.
These were likely built from the existing floor box assemblies without modification.
At this, the estimator and I discussed wiring method selection in general.
For the jobs the two of us are assigned,
PVC is usually never acceptable except underground or in-slab,
however I explained that this is due to near universal specification,
not code compliance.
It is apparently typical of Florida jobs to run PVC
in most areas we would expect to use EMT,
even where in plain view.
The estimator said their strategy is to assume EMT assemblies
with the expectation that they may need to substitute them
following [[conest-senior-review]].
This is a [[heuristics|heuristic]]
in that it achieves an outcome acceptable to the estimator
despite being objectionable according to established[^1] [[conest]] practice.
[^1]: As far as it can be said to be established...
Many seniors would expect that every estimator
know how to determine acceptable wiring method selection
for arbitrary construction considerations
given the project documents.
This is a deceptively naive expectation:---
What is acceptable according to the drawings and specifications
is frequently in contradiction with what was sold,
which is frequently in contradiction with what was _believed_ to be sold.
Determining "acceptability" then, is nontrivial for estimators
who, by all rights, ought not have to concern themselves
with resolving ambiguity so egregious it ought to be reprimanded.